Meet the South Africans who want the All Blacks to win tonight

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National identity isn't the only reason to back a team – and these three proud All Black supporters, all originally from South Africa, prove it. Lauren Marrion talks to them about passion, loyalty and racial tension and finds out why they made the switch.

It’s one of the most iconic rivalries in sport, the All Blacks vs the Springboks. For over a century, the two teams have battled it out on the rugby field, and the tension hasn’t always been just about the game.

During South Africa’s apartheid era, sport was deeply politicised and, for many around the world, the Springboks became a symbol of racial segregation. The situation famously errupted in Aotearoa during the 1981 Springbok tour, with widespread protests against apartheid dividing New Zealand, interrupting some games and completely stopping others.

Springbok tour demonstrators leave Lancaster Park, Christchurch, after invading the pitch before first test match between the All Blacks and the Springboks, August 15, 1981. (Photo by Kenneth Stevens/Fairfax Media via Getty Images).

Fast-forward to today, and an interesting phenomenon has emerged: a growing number of South Africans both living in New Zealand and back in South Africa are choosing to support the All Blacks. A source involved in rugby ticketing in Cape Town (home to the largest All Blacks fan base in South Africa), says demand skyrockets when the ABs come to town. For a stadium with 58,000 seats, up to 300,000 fans register for tickets.

As fans prepare for tonight's match between these two rugby giants at Eden Park, Auckland, I spoke with South African-born All Blacks supporters now living in Aotearoa to find out what drives their loyalty to the men in black.

Danie Westraadt

'I believe there is no place for politics in sports'

Danie Westraadt works as an aircraft engineer at Air New Zealand, having moved to New Zealand from Pretoria, South Africa, in 2008. Over 17 years of living in New Zealand with his wife, a nurse, and their now teen daughter, Westraadt has developed a love for his local community and for his adopted country's culture and sports.

You had a soft spot for the All Blacks even before moving to New Zealand. Where did that come from?

Growing up in a sport-mad household, rugby has always been top of the agenda. Although the All Blacks and SA didn’t play lots of internationals against each other, the All Blacks have always been an amazing team and pretty much the benchmark of international rugby. After the 1992 All Blacks tour to South Africa, the admiration grew bigger and bigger.

What made your allegiance official?

Moving to New Zealand in 2008 has been an amazing journey for me and my family. You become part of everyday life in New Zealand, and form part of local communities. I wouldn’t say it was a specific game as such. But obviously having players the likes of McCaw, Carter, Muliaina playing for the ABs made the transition easy.

Mils Muliaina is chased by Australia's James O'Connor at Eden Park in 2011.

Did you receive criticism from fellow South Africans for switching sides?

Obviously there has been, and sometimes still is criticism from fellow South Africans. But everyone’s entitled to their own opinion or preference. Mostly it has been in good spirit.

Do you support the Boks when they play other teams?

Being a hardcore rugby supporter I’ll watch the games, but wouldn’t get up at 4 in the morning, if that makes sense.

How do you view the historic political controversy?

I believe there is no place for politics in sports. The game should be played in the spirit it is intended in. I’m too young to remember the 1981 tour, but it seems evident that politics in rugby divided a nation.

Police clash with protestors, Hamilton, 1981

What does supporting the All Blacks represent to you today?

I suppose being humble in everyday life comes from seeing the way Richie McCaw captained and led the All Blacks. It shows in life you don’t have to be the biggest (player size/population) to be successful.

All Blacks captain Richie McCaw lifts the Webb Ellis trophy following the 2011 world cup final at Eden Park.

Has supporting the ABs shaped your cultural identity?

The Silver Fern, that originates from the koru, meaning new life/new beginning, would be symbolic to my adopted country. I’m proud to be called a Kiwi… and an All Black supporter.

All Blacks supporter Jozaine Josephs

'Most All Black support in South Africa comes from non-white community'

Jozaine Josephs only moved to New Plymouth from Johannesburg last year, but he's been passionately cheering for the All Blacks since the iconic 1995 Rugby World Cup. A pastor at the Seventh-day Adventist Church, Jozaine has two daughters and a son who shares his love for the All Blacks.

What made you support the ABs back in 1995?

I was impressed by their inclusion of all ethnic groups within NZ, while SA only had one person of colour in the team – Chester Williams. I could not understand, with all the talent among our people, how only one person of colour could make the Springbok team. That drew me to the All Blacks.

The late Chester Williams with copies of his biography in Cape Town, South Africa, 2002.

Coming from the Western Cape, where the ABs have strong fan support, what do you think draws so many to New Zealand rugby?

Most of their support comes from the non-white, ‘mixed race’ community, who were previously disadvantaged by our sports policy.

What values did your family pass down through their AB support?

The message passed to me was that we are more than the colour of our skin. We should be judged by our ability and content of character.

You said earlier that you believe some of your family members were excluded from Springbok selection because of their race. How did that shape your views?

It made me dislike our rugby. Yet, it also drove me to never judge people based on their skin colour.

Jozaine's favourite player, the late Jonah Lomu evades the tackle of Stephen Larkham in a Bledisloe Cup match in Sydney, 2000. Photo: Robert Cianflone/ALLSPORT

Chester Williams was a pivotal figure in the 1995 Springbok team. How did his inclusion impact your community’s view of the team?

We found the team to be very racial and segregated. His inclusion did not provide us with hope for future children of colour. We knew of many who were of equal calibre to him, or better, who weren’t considered.

Do you face criticism for supporting the All Blacks?

Yes, I do. People say apartheid is over and the team is now more representative. But the past cannot be so easily erased. Even today, players of colour experience more scrutiny than their white counterparts. They always have to play to a different bar.

How did the ABs brand of rugby shape your fandom?

Growing up, every rugby player wanted to be like Jonah Lomu. From his hair to how he ran over others—it was all admirable. He brought countries together to enjoy rugby.

Capetown, South Africa, where support for the All Blacks is high.

How do you balance patriotism with All Blacks loyalty?

When SA plays teams like the Wallabies, I support them out of patriotism, not because I support the politics around rugby. The national anthem reminds me of the Outeniqua Mountains, the ocean, of the wilderness, the braais and biltong… and that makes me homesick.

Leonie Winter

'The All Blacks' style of play drew me in'

Leonie Winter's love for the All Blacks began even before she moved from Rustenburg, South Africa, to New Zealand in 2019. She and her partner have three grown children and are passionate about helping fellow South Africans settle in New Zealand.

You began supporting the All Blacks three years before immigrating. What prompted the shift away from the Springboks?

The All Blacks’ consistent performance and style of play drew me in. Their emphasis on teamwork, discipline, and innovation resonated with me. As I followed their journey, I found myself naturally gravitating towards them and knew New Zealand would be my home.

Rieko Ioane leads the All Blacks haka.

How did your friends and family react?

They were surprised and amused. Some teased me about ‘betraying’ the Springboks. But I handled it with humour. My appreciation for the All Blacks didn’t diminish my love for South African rugby.

You’ve described situations in South Africa where, in your opinion, white players were overlooked in order to satisfy racial quotas. How did this impact your view of the Springbok team?

While I understand the importance of promoting diversity, it’s essential that selections balance merit with inclusion. The team’s integrity relies on fair and transparent decision-making.

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